Lifes2Short, drunks will continue to speed through school zones - those stupid cameras won't stop a doggone one of them. Why? Because drunk drivers don't think. *IF* they still reside at the address the DMV has for their license plate, they'll get a ticket in the mail, which they'll throw away.
These things are money-grubbers - ONLY! There's no safety involved.
I've been to Bike Nites and other functions at McMenany's, and HOLY SMOKE!!! is the entertainment loud! When you can't hear yourself speak, it's loud. They could turn it down, and not have any effect on their business.
Mayor O'Brien, it's time for YOU to take concessions - you and your entire staff, the city council, and all the so-called leaders of the city.The rank and file have taken hit after hit. Now it's your turn. Anything you insist they do, the mayor, council, and city hall should have already done.
No, Lifes2Short, it's not that simple. The camera can malfunction. It can take a picture of two cars, one of which is speeding and one that is not. In a still picture, how can you tell which is which? The problem is, with the camera, you're assumed to be guilty until you prove yourself innocent. How is that even legal (aside from the fact that money talks)?
Cameras do nothing about drunk drivers, cellphone-blabbing drivers (aka the new drunk drivers), expired plates, wanted criminals, . . . none of that. They can all drive past the camera in complete security - as long as they don't speed. They're no more about safety than the man in the moon.
BTW - what ever happened to those gunshot recording devices the city was supposed to buy, that would "deter crime" by informing the cops when someone fired a gun, and triangulating where the gunshot came from? Are they keeping us safer yet, or did the city come to its senses on that particular fantasy?
Just a hint to Steve Novotny, and I don't mean this with any malice. The PBS TV show This Old House has run segments showing them going to warehouses of old mantles, bathroom fixtures, doors, windows, and everything else one can salvage from an abandoned house. It's not all that new an industry - although it is new HERE. Perhaps he can contact the producers of This Old House and have them put him in touch with their contacts regarding salvage and deconstruction. He may be able to pick up some good information.
To the county commissioners: We gave you half the county's income as a permanent tax. We want to keep hold of the other half, as a means of making sure you keep to the straight and narrow. Drop the idea that this half should be permanent.
The commissioners can grasp at straws and talk about the wording on the ballot, but other issues with 'typos' seemed to do all right. The library issue is a good example. I'll bet few people outside the Youngstown area (and a large percentage within it!) never heard the name Reuben McMillan.
I'd like to see the county put an either-or issue on the ballot. One could vote for either the continuous tax, or another segment of the renewal. That would show the commissioners conclusively that people here don't want to just give up our money. We want the commissioners to have to justify their spending, and for them to expect to be held accountable for their actions.
I think a renewal has a better chance of passing than a permanent tax.
Posted on November 6 at 10:56 p.m.
Lifes2Short, drunks will continue to speed through school zones - those stupid cameras won't stop a doggone one of them. Why? Because drunk drivers don't think. *IF* they still reside at the address the DMV has for their license plate, they'll get a ticket in the mail, which they'll throw away.
These things are money-grubbers - ONLY! There's no safety involved.
Posted on November 6 at 10:49 p.m.
I've been to Bike Nites and other functions at McMenany's, and HOLY SMOKE!!! is the entertainment loud! When you can't hear yourself speak, it's loud. They could turn it down, and not have any effect on their business.
Posted on November 6 at 10:45 p.m.
Mayor O'Brien, it's time for YOU to take concessions - you and your entire staff, the city council, and all the so-called leaders of the city.The rank and file have taken hit after hit. Now it's your turn. Anything you insist they do, the mayor, council, and city hall should have already done.
Lead by example (for a change).
Posted on November 6 at 10:35 p.m.
No, Lifes2Short, it's not that simple. The camera can malfunction. It can take a picture of two cars, one of which is speeding and one that is not. In a still picture, how can you tell which is which? The problem is, with the camera, you're assumed to be guilty until you prove yourself innocent. How is that even legal (aside from the fact that money talks)?
Cameras do nothing about drunk drivers, cellphone-blabbing drivers (aka the new drunk drivers), expired plates, wanted criminals, . . . none of that. They can all drive past the camera in complete security - as long as they don't speed. They're no more about safety than the man in the moon.
BTW - what ever happened to those gunshot recording devices the city was supposed to buy, that would "deter crime" by informing the cops when someone fired a gun, and triangulating where the gunshot came from? Are they keeping us safer yet, or did the city come to its senses on that particular fantasy?
Posted on November 6 at 10:24 p.m.
Just a hint to Steve Novotny, and I don't mean this with any malice. The PBS TV show This Old House has run segments showing them going to warehouses of old mantles, bathroom fixtures, doors, windows, and everything else one can salvage from an abandoned house. It's not all that new an industry - although it is new HERE. Perhaps he can contact the producers of This Old House and have them put him in touch with their contacts regarding salvage and deconstruction. He may be able to pick up some good information.
Posted on November 6 at 7:48 a.m.
If it's not about the money, why don't they take the fees the cameras generate and give them to the schools, or a youth organization, or something?
Of course it's about the money!
Posted on November 5 at 8 p.m.
To the county commissioners: We gave you half the county's income as a permanent tax. We want to keep hold of the other half, as a means of making sure you keep to the straight and narrow. Drop the idea that this half should be permanent.
Posted on November 5 at 6:59 a.m.
The commissioners can grasp at straws and talk about the wording on the ballot, but other issues with 'typos' seemed to do all right. The library issue is a good example. I'll bet few people outside the Youngstown area (and a large percentage within it!) never heard the name Reuben McMillan.
I'd like to see the county put an either-or issue on the ballot. One could vote for either the continuous tax, or another segment of the renewal. That would show the commissioners conclusively that people here don't want to just give up our money. We want the commissioners to have to justify their spending, and for them to expect to be held accountable for their actions.
I think a renewal has a better chance of passing than a permanent tax.
Posted on November 2 at 3:42 p.m.
And by that I mean employees do have rights. The way to get things done is to treat people fairly, and in an honorable manner.
Posted on November 2 at 3:33 p.m.
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